I had the good fortune to meet Hafsa at a Women in Governance Conference I had agreed to speak at to share the male perspective. During my time I challenged the audience as I do any audience to be bolder around curiousity and engaging those you wich to gain poerspective and learning from irreespective of their title / perceived status.
Hafsa did just that and we agreed to meet and quickly realised we shared many similar interests. I'm excited to be collaborating with her on a new project in Christchurch which we hope to share publicy soon!
I hope you enjoy our discussion which can be listened to here